I’m not sure you can ask a liar a direct question to try to get to the truth. “I think I realized before we started shooting that he’s actually not the best person to tell his own story, strangely, because, in my opinion, he is so deeply invested in the fiction of himself as this white knight genius who has been assailed on every side by people who misunderstood him or were out to get him. “It’s also not the most flattering portrayal of his life, so he probably wouldn’t have been all that interested in being helpful,” Jackson says. Although he and Macmanus discussed whether meeting Duntsch was an option, but “for a variety of different reasons, it was never going to happen.” They were filming amid the COVID-19 pandemic, while Duntsch is incarcerated and filing appeals. While some actors in fact-based adaptations have the privilege of meeting with those involved - Julia Garner visited Anna Delvey in prison while prepping for Netflix’s “Inventing Anna” - that wasn’t the case for Jackson.
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“That was a great unlocking to the character in the very beginning because once I put aside the judgment of him, then I’m able to start doing my work, which is to figure out how to take all the things that are factually correct, take all the things that are inferred by his behavior and try to mash those all together into a human being that you can at least recognize.” I think he still believes that he is the actual victim of everything that happened around him and because of him,” Jackson says of Duntsch, who is serving life in prison. So, when you leave that aside, then you get into the much thornier questions like, did he think he was the hero of his own story? I really believe he still does. “I did the thing that I think we all do when we are first confronted with the story, which is to first ask, ‘Why did this happen? How could this possibly happen? And what is wrong with this guy?’”Īs he began having more conversations with Macmanus, those questions changed. “I will admit in the very beginning, the first time I read the scripts, I think I read them more as an audience member than as an actor,” says Jackson. “Then came the intimidating fun of trying to figure out how to make that monster into a man,” he tells us with a laugh. Jackson, who came on to the project after all the scripts had already been finished, was hooked when listening to the podcast. “At the end of the day, if you’re making these types of characters, you’ve got to find ways to have the audience put their judgment aside and go along with the ride of the character and that is what we attempted to do.” But we were to build a character that, in little moments of sunshine, you could shine on the character so that person at home could say, ‘I don’t agree with anything that he did, but that’s a flawed human being,’” Macmanus says. “There was so much for us to dig into in his past that gave us sort of an entry point into who he was as a human being - deeply flawed, deeply troubled, both from nature and nurture.
In order to accomplish that, he tried to find a way to give Jackson a “road map.” The Wondery podcast of the same title, on which the show is based, served as the first destination.
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